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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>De către: Marian</title>
		<link>http://www.logec.ro/2009/11/09/lituania-dansand-cu-deflatia/comment-page-1/#comment-2093</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bogdan, e extrem de usor sa invarti termeni gen &quot;masa monetara&quot;, &quot;deflatie&quot;, &quot;crestere economica&quot; cat timp nu intelegi cum se leaga intre ei.
Pana una alta, panica deflationista este legata de spirala deflationista, care nu poate aparea fara acea mentionata scadere a preturilor sustinuta. Si masa monetara poate scadea linistita fara scadere sustinuta (nu &quot;one time deal&quot;, ca la energie) a preturilor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bogdan, e extrem de usor sa invarti termeni gen &#8220;masa monetara&#8221;, &#8220;deflatie&#8221;, &#8220;crestere economica&#8221; cat timp nu intelegi cum se leaga intre ei.<br />
Pana una alta, panica deflationista este legata de spirala deflationista, care nu poate aparea fara acea mentionata scadere a preturilor sustinuta. Si masa monetara poate scadea linistita fara scadere sustinuta (nu &#8220;one time deal&#8221;, ca la energie) a preturilor.</p>
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		<title>De către: Bogdan Glavan</title>
		<link>http://www.logec.ro/2009/11/09/lituania-dansand-cu-deflatia/comment-page-1/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogdan Glavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha, daca va pricepeti sa reinventati teoria monetara, poate ne explicati atunci si de ce Bernanke se da de ceasul mortii sa nu scada cumva masa monetara!
In treacat fie spus, nu cred ca putem vorbi de colapsul nevoii de a detine bani, ci mai mult de &quot;long and variable lag&quot; cu care isi face simtite efectele politica monetara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, daca va pricepeti sa reinventati teoria monetara, poate ne explicati atunci si de ce Bernanke se da de ceasul mortii sa nu scada cumva masa monetara!<br />
In treacat fie spus, nu cred ca putem vorbi de colapsul nevoii de a detine bani, ci mai mult de &#8220;long and variable lag&#8221; cu care isi face simtite efectele politica monetara.</p>
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		<title>De către: Marian</title>
		<link>http://www.logec.ro/2009/11/09/lituania-dansand-cu-deflatia/comment-page-1/#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex Nicolin:
Se pare ca nu ti-e clar ce-i cu deflatia, de ce e periculoasa si unde trebuie sa fie ea ca sa fie periculoasa.

Faptul ca au scazut preturile de productie nu inseamna nimic rau, ba chiar dpdv supply, e un avantaj - cresc profiturile per unitatea de obiect produs, deci (1) devine mai profitabil sa investesti in productie, ca return-ul e mai mare, (2).

Daca preturile de consum ar scadea (lucru care se pare ca, conform graficului, nu s-ar fi intamplat nici macar o secunda in Lituania), si s-ar intampla sustinut si pe o perioada de timp semnificativa (macar cateva luni), atunci toti actorii economici (consumatori, producatori) ar realiza ca cea mai buna investitie este sa puna banul la ciorap; pentru ca in timp ii creste valoarea banului fara sa misti un deget.

Subliniez acel &quot;sustinut&quot;, fara el nu exista nici un risc. Exemplu de &quot;deflatie nesustinuta&quot; este cea legata de pretul energiei. Treci de la baril 100$ la baril 30$, deci preturile produselor scad (din cauza scaderii energiei). Dar nu prezinta nici un pericol economic (ba dimpotriva, este un avantaj) deflationist, pentru ca nu exista nici o spirala de scadere de preturi - nu poti sa scazi pretul petrolului prea mult sub 30 (sau 20), si chiar daca ai reusit sa duci petrolul la 0$, mai scad preturile un pic si gata.

Oricum, cat timp ai moneda pegged to Euro, si cat timp n-ai deflatie periculoasa in zona Euro, n-ai de ce sa-ti faci astfel de probleme.


Marota colapsului masei monetare care se transforma in deflatie periculoasa este falsa, cat timp simultan cu colapsul masei monetare ai si colaspul nevoii banilor, deci deflatie in preturile de consum este ca si inexistenta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex Nicolin:<br />
Se pare ca nu ti-e clar ce-i cu deflatia, de ce e periculoasa si unde trebuie sa fie ea ca sa fie periculoasa.</p>
<p>Faptul ca au scazut preturile de productie nu inseamna nimic rau, ba chiar dpdv supply, e un avantaj &#8211; cresc profiturile per unitatea de obiect produs, deci (1) devine mai profitabil sa investesti in productie, ca return-ul e mai mare, (2).</p>
<p>Daca preturile de consum ar scadea (lucru care se pare ca, conform graficului, nu s-ar fi intamplat nici macar o secunda in Lituania), si s-ar intampla sustinut si pe o perioada de timp semnificativa (macar cateva luni), atunci toti actorii economici (consumatori, producatori) ar realiza ca cea mai buna investitie este sa puna banul la ciorap; pentru ca in timp ii creste valoarea banului fara sa misti un deget.</p>
<p>Subliniez acel &#8220;sustinut&#8221;, fara el nu exista nici un risc. Exemplu de &#8220;deflatie nesustinuta&#8221; este cea legata de pretul energiei. Treci de la baril 100$ la baril 30$, deci preturile produselor scad (din cauza scaderii energiei). Dar nu prezinta nici un pericol economic (ba dimpotriva, este un avantaj) deflationist, pentru ca nu exista nici o spirala de scadere de preturi &#8211; nu poti sa scazi pretul petrolului prea mult sub 30 (sau 20), si chiar daca ai reusit sa duci petrolul la 0$, mai scad preturile un pic si gata.</p>
<p>Oricum, cat timp ai moneda pegged to Euro, si cat timp n-ai deflatie periculoasa in zona Euro, n-ai de ce sa-ti faci astfel de probleme.</p>
<p>Marota colapsului masei monetare care se transforma in deflatie periculoasa este falsa, cat timp simultan cu colapsul masei monetare ai si colaspul nevoii banilor, deci deflatie in preturile de consum este ca si inexistenta.</p>
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		<title>De către: Alex Nicolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Nicolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marian
Nu au scazut preturile de consum, dar au scazut simtitor cele de productie. In mai putin de un an nu se poate face retehnologizarea industriei unei tari, cu tot cu amortizarile aferente. Deci scaderea preturilor de productie reflecta defapt scaderea salariilor muncitorilor. Chiar daca masa monetara nu s-a contractat, a scazut viteza de circulatie in bucla salarii-consum-salarii.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marian<br />
Nu au scazut preturile de consum, dar au scazut simtitor cele de productie. In mai putin de un an nu se poate face retehnologizarea industriei unei tari, cu tot cu amortizarile aferente. Deci scaderea preturilor de productie reflecta defapt scaderea salariilor muncitorilor. Chiar daca masa monetara nu s-a contractat, a scazut viteza de circulatie in bucla salarii-consum-salarii.</p>
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		<title>De către: Bogdan Glavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bogdan Glavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cineva a lipsit de la cursul de deflatie! Problema este tocmai scaderea masei monetare, nu scaderea preturilor. Daca nu scade masa monetara, cum poate sa scada nivelul preturilor (sa creasca puterea de cumparare a unitatii monetare)? 
Dar, ca de obicei, cei mai putin instruiti sunt si cel mai putin civilizati.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cineva a lipsit de la cursul de deflatie! Problema este tocmai scaderea masei monetare, nu scaderea preturilor. Daca nu scade masa monetara, cum poate sa scada nivelul preturilor (sa creasca puterea de cumparare a unitatii monetare)?<br />
Dar, ca de obicei, cei mai putin instruiti sunt si cel mai putin civilizati.</p>
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		<title>De către: Marian</title>
		<link>http://www.logec.ro/2009/11/09/lituania-dansand-cu-deflatia/comment-page-1/#comment-2063</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ne aburesti cu date false, de-aceea tragi niste concluzii atat de aiurea.

Deflatia aia periculoasa de care vorbesti nu sta in masa monetara. Masa monetara poate sa scada cat vrea ea, cat timp n-ai scaderi de preturi la produse, nu risti sa intrii in deflational spiral (pentru ca daca preturile nu vor scade in viitor, nimeni nu amana cheltuirea banilor ca sa faca economii).

Si cum arati tu in grafic, indicele de inflatie a preturilor (cel cu albastru) s-a coborat nici o secunda sub 0%. Deci care deflatie, nelule?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ne aburesti cu date false, de-aceea tragi niste concluzii atat de aiurea.</p>
<p>Deflatia aia periculoasa de care vorbesti nu sta in masa monetara. Masa monetara poate sa scada cat vrea ea, cat timp n-ai scaderi de preturi la produse, nu risti sa intrii in deflational spiral (pentru ca daca preturile nu vor scade in viitor, nimeni nu amana cheltuirea banilor ca sa faca economii).</p>
<p>Si cum arati tu in grafic, indicele de inflatie a preturilor (cel cu albastru) s-a coborat nici o secunda sub 0%. Deci care deflatie, nelule?</p>
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